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		<title>Why Does Exorcism Persist in Modern Times?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Overwhelmed with requests for exorcism practitioners, U.S. Roman Catholic bishops recently held a special training workshop in Baltimore to teach the rite. The church signed up 56 bishops and 66 priests for the two-day session, aiming to boost the small group of just five or six American exorcists currently on the church’s books. “There’s this &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/1065/exorcism-persist-modern-times/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Overwhelmed with requests for exorcism practitioners, U.S. Roman Catholic bishops recently held a special training workshop in Baltimore to teach the rite. The church signed up 56 bishops and 66 priests for the two-day session, aiming to boost the small group of just five or six American exorcists currently on the church’s books.</p>
<p>“There’s this small group of priests who say they get requests from all over the continental U.S.,” Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, stated. Concerning exorcists, he added that “actually, each diocese should have its own.”</p>
<p>Neal Lozano, a Catholic writer, reports that he knows an exorcist in the church who receives about 400 inquiries a year about performing an exorcism. Out of this number, the exorcist determines that only two or three cases require an exorcism.</p>
<p>Although the procedure is not performed frequently, the question that should immediately occur to most freethinkers is why, in an era of relative scientific sophistication, this ritual is ever done and what is the church’s motivation for encouraging interest in this ritual that logic says should have been abandoned centuries ago.<strong> </strong> Before we tackle these questions, general information about exorcism will be helpful.</p>
<p>The religious concept that explains the alleged need for exorcism is a belief in demonic possession, a situation where a demon can inhabit the human body and produce abnormal behavior or abnormal medical findings. This belief in demonic possession is older than Christianity itself. Christianity simply co-opted the idea from other cultures and religions, as they did with many of their other beliefs. The term “exorcism” became prominent in early Christianity from the early second century onward.</p>
<p>In Christian belief, angels were created good. Since they were endowed with free will, some of them rebelled against God, were banished from heaven, and became demons. The leader of the demons was Satan.</p>
<p>Jesus commanded his followers to expel “evil spirits” in his name. The New Testament contains several examples of Jesus casting out evil spirits from people, and the church notes these acts in the Catholic Catechism.</p>
<p>In pre-scientific Christianity, the church taught that disease was punishment from God for sins or was caused by demonic possession. In this discussion, the focus is on demonic possession. In its current usage, exorcism is mainly reserved for certain aberrant mental behavior.</p>
<p>The organizers of the training workshop in Baltimore were keenly aware of the potential for ridicule since many Americans view exorcism with skepticism. Exorcists in the U.S. keep a very low profile.  In 1999, the church updated the Rite of Exorcism and cautioned that “all must be done to avoid the perception that exorcism is magic or superstition.”</p>
<p>Exorcisms, according to the Canon law of the church, can only be performed by an ordained priest (or higher prelate), with the express permission of the local bishop. In addition, a careful medical examination to exclude the possibility of mental illness is required.</p>
<p>An exorcism is much less dramatic than what is presented in movies. It is done in private and includes sprinkling holy water, reciting Psalms, reading aloud from the Gospel, laying on of hands, and reciting the Lord’s Prayer. Some additional measures are allowed for different circumstances such as invoking the Holy Spirit followed by blowing in the face of the subject, tracing the sign of the cross on the person’s forehead, and commanding the demon to leave.</p>
<p>Some of the classic signs of demon possession, according to Bishop Paprocki, are speaking in a language the person has never learned, extraordinary shows of strength, a sudden aversion to spiritual things like holy water or the name of God, severe sleeplessness, lack of appetite, and cutting, scratching, and biting the skin.</p>
<p>For a person to accept the efficacy of exorcism, it is necessary to believe in demons. How common is this belief in the general population? According to an August 2007 Pew poll, the figure is, astoundingly, 68 %.</p>
<p>Demonic possession, of course, is not a valid psychiatric or medical diagnosis recognized by the standard diagnostic reference books in psychiatry and medicine, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-IV) for psychiatry and the International Classification of Disease (ICD-10) for medicine. The signs that the church lists as evidence of demonic possession can be found in a wide variety of psychiatric and medical conditions.</p>
<p>There are multiple possible explanations for the increased interest in exorcism by the hierarchy of the church and its members:</p>
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<li>Interest has been whetted by Hollywood. Exorcism has been a staple of fright films, most notably the 1973 film <em>The Exorcist</em>.</li>
<li>Reports of successful procedures on famous people tend to give them credence. For example, Mother Teresa allegedly underwent an exorcism late in life when the archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D’Souza, noted that she showed extreme agitation in her sleep. He feared she “might be under the attack of the evil one.”</li>
<li>Reverend Richard Vega, president of the National Federation of Priests’ Councils, an organization for American priests, said that there could be a rising demand for exorcism because of the influx of Hispanic and African Catholics to the U.S. He noted that people from those cultures were more attuned to the supernatural.</li>
<li>Another reason for increased interest in exorcism could be Pope Benedict XVI’s call for a return to traditional rituals and practices.</li>
<li>But the really fundamental reason behind it all is stated unambiguously well by R. Scott Appleby, professor of American Catholic history at the University of Notre Dame. He is a longtime observer of the bishops. In referring to the recent training program in Baltimore, he stated: “What they’re trying to do in restoring exorcisms is to strengthen and enhance what seems to be lost in the church, which is the sense that the church is not like any other institution. It is supernatural, and the key players in that are the hierarchy and the priests who can be given the faculties of exorcism. It’s a strategy for saying we are not the Federal Reserve, and we are not the World Council of Churches. We deal with angels and demons.”</li>
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<p>There you have it. A profound Wizard<em> of Oz</em> moment by a prominent Catholic theologian. The curtain was pulled back and the all-powerful Oz was revealed as just a fallible human being without any supernatural powers. Professor Appleby reveals the fundamental flaw of Catholicism and all other religions that depend on belief in a supernatural realm. Without the alleged magical powers that they can tap into by this belief, they would just be another secular institution.</p>
<p>There is a complete lack of any scientific evidence that a supernatural realm inhabited by fanciful and titillating entities such as gods, goddesses, angels, devils, and demons exists. But this naïve and mythological belief is enhanced and perpetuated by a gullible public.</p>
<p>So exorcism, an isolated belief in the supernatural, provides important lessons for freethinkers in how to accelerate the presently slow trend toward a secular world. Every time we encounter a specific supernatural claim, it must be promptly answered with a rational scientific explanation. This applies particularly to scientists, who by their detached attitudes have allowed supernatural claims to flourish. And as for an overly credulous public, the long term answer is increased levels of education, particularly in science and especially scientific (critical) thinking. Only by these measures will be able to pull back the curtain on the charlatan behind it.</p>
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		<title>“Today I Quit Being a Christian” By Jesus Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Today I Quit Being a Christian” By Jesus Christ Interview by Nick Farrantello This just in:  Today, on his Twitter page, Jesus Christ, philosopher and rumored “Son of God” announced “I quit being a Christian.  I’m out. ” Twitter followers were stunned.  “I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist.  I refuse to &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/1025/today-quit-christian-jesus-christ/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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<p>This just in:  Today, on his Twitter page, Jesus Christ, philosopher and rumored “Son of God” announced “I quit being a Christian.  I’m out. ”</p>
<p>Twitter followers were stunned.  “I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist.  I refuse to be anti-science, anti-movies, anti-Halloween, anti-Harry Potter, anti-Teletubbies, anti-science fiction conventions, anti-Indian food, anti-Large Hadron Collider, anti-big words, anti-yoga, anti-Karma Sutra (pages 17 thru 49), anti-news that isn’t Fox, anti-history books, anti-Wikipedia, anti-trees, and especially anti-Will and Grace.  I mean come on, who didn’t like Will and Grace.  Jack was so funny.  Am I right?”</p>
<p>“I just, in good conscience, can no longer associate myself with this quarrelsome, hostile (and frankly way too needy) group.  They all just need to get a life, always asking me for stuff.   “Can you give me the  lottery numbers?  Will you rig the football games so my team will win?  Can you smite the entire population of that country, over there, so I can continue to drive my SUV?”  It’s tiresome.</p>
<p><strong>How do your friends feel about this decision?</strong></p>
<p>I suppose I have a lot of Christian friends.  I never really thought about it.  They’re going to be disappointed.  I understand that, but let’s face it.  A lot of them had it coming.  I don’t mind sitting there listening to them talking about their kids or their crumby job, but when they start talking about burning Korans and blabbering about the Tea Party and how great Glen Beck is, I just turn off.  And when I started seeing the “Palin/Coulter 2012” bumper sticker, frankly, I thought my head was going to explode.</p>
<p><strong>What do you say to your fans?</strong></p>
<p>I know this might come as a shock to some, but those people who have been following me on Facebook, probably knew this was coming for a while, ever since my break with the Catholic Church in 05.  In the old days it was cool being Roman Catholic.   It was like a private party.   There was ritual, the churches were all glittery, John Paul was lovable.  You just wanted to squeeze him.  But when <strong>Ratzinger</strong> took over, it just stopped being fun.</p>
<p><strong>How will this affect your books?</strong></p>
<p>If you’re asking me if I think this will affect sales, I doubt it.  Face it.  People are looking for a certain type of thing when they buy my books.  That market has always been there and will always be there.  That’s not going to change. Besides, that whole thing kind of runs itself now.  I really don’t get involved with that part of my business.  To be really honest here, I wasn’t even very involved with the first book.  It was a fluke.  Who knew it would take off like that?  Now there are movies and games.  It’s a whole industry.  I can live a good life on the royalties from the action figures alone.</p>
<p><strong>What is your opinion on the state of Christian literature today?</strong></p>
<p>Being responsible for a few bestsellers myself, I find it harder and harder to get behind the Christian literature coming out these days.  Frank E. Peretti’s stuff is sooo “preachy,” and Tim LaHaye’s, <em>Left Behind</em> series?  It’s like reading <em>The Road Warrior</em>.  I’m sure Mel Gibson would love to star in the next movie.</p>
<p><strong>What do you think about Ann Rice’s books?</strong></p>
<p>I liked the vampire books.  But I have a real problem with Rice’s recent stuff.  The problem is that they claim to be based on exhaustive research by the author, but really it is nothing more than pure fiction.  Don’t get me wrong, fiction is my middle name, but let’s call a spade a spade here.</p>
<p><strong>If you&#8217;re no longer a Christian, is there one denomination that you do like?</strong></p>
<p>Frankly, I don’t have much use for any of ‘em.  I would prefer to walk away from the argument, from the confusion.  I’m not leaving just the Christians.  I want to leave the entire fray, the entire quarrel &#8211; the entire public face of religion.  I guess you could call me a reverse-theist or maybe call it anti-beleifism.  How about an athei-theologionism?   There probably is a better term for what I have become but god knows what it is.</p>
<p><strong>What’s next for JC?</strong></p>
<p>I think I need to be more comfortable with myself before I can go worrying about the whole world, you know what I’m saying?  Take some “me time.”  Maybe, I’ll do some traveling, head out East.  I know some people out there who said they would put me up for a few nights.</p>
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		<dc:creator>James Williamson MD</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Demolishing the wall between church and state in order to establish a Christian theocracy is the ultimate goal of the Christian Right. Since they believe their version of Christianity is infallible and the only true means of salvation, they can’t understand why their religion shouldn’t be an integral part of our lives and our government &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/934/freedom-wall/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Demolishing the wall between church and state in order to establish a Christian theocracy is the ultimate goal of the Christian Right. Since they believe their version of Christianity is infallible and the only true means of salvation, they can’t understand why their religion shouldn’t be an integral part of our lives and our government as well. They believe they are doing us a favor by saving our souls and think by Christianizing the world they are preparing it for Christ’s Second Coming.</p>
<p>To tear down the wall, fundamentalist Christians flagrantly twist facts. They claim our first presidents, as well as most of our other founders, were Christians, that the essential documents our country was founded on incorporated Christian precepts, and that the founders didn’t really intend to establish a strict separation between Christianity and the government.</p>
<p>I’ll review specific evidence to help refute these claims.</p>
<p>The religious beliefs of the first four United States presidents (George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison) is a good starting point since these remarkably talented men provided crucial leadership in the creation of our particular form of government.</p>
<p>All were strongly influenced by the European Enlightenment, a movement that promoted scientific thinking and religious tolerance. Most of the members of the Enlightenment were Deists, a minimalist religion that promoted the idea of a non-anthropomorphic god, a vague idea of a first cause or a god of nature. Deists thought this pseudo-god created the Universe and then retired to allow it to operate naturally. They did not believe in miracles or any humans, such as Jesus Christ, possessing divine powers. Many historians have classified these presidents as Deists.</p>
<p>The first four presidents were highly intelligent and comprehensively well educated, (Washington had less formal education than the other three) – including the classics and scientific knowledge of the time. They were men of exemplary character. All these attributes eminently qualified them to create a government structure that has endured and been a model for the rest of the world. (I feel a bit depressed when I compare these giants against some of our recent presidents, and I believe we should start critically reviewing what has gone wrong with the selection process).</p>
<p>Although the first four presidents did not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and had serious misgivings about much of religion in general, they were tolerant and friendly in their dealings with religious figures. They all believed in complete religious freedom for everyone and stressed that this freedom was only possible when the government remained entirely neutral toward religion.</p>
<p>1. George Washington (1732-1799), the first president of the United States (1789-1797), was the hardest to read of the early presidents concerning his religious beliefs. He realized how contentious the subject of religion was, especially in public office, and simply tried to keep his true feelings to himself.  It is understandable that some have regarded him as a Christian since he was a vestryman in the Episcopal Church, which he attended sporadically, less so as he became older.</p>
<p>This superficial appearance of Christianity is countered by considerable evidence:</p>
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<li>He never took communion, even though his wife Martha did, which required the family carriage to make a return trip to the church to pick her up. Most Christians took communion at some time;</li>
<li>In his time, church attendance was often a social obligation rather than an indication of a person’s true beliefs;</li>
<li>In Washington’s writings, he never referred to Jesus Christ;</li>
<li>There is no evidence he expressed belief at any time in conventional Christian dogma;</li>
<li>His father was a Deist;</li>
<li>The Reverend Doctor James Abercrombie, rector of the church Washington attended with his wife, in reply to a question about Washington’s religion, said: “Sir, Washington was a Deist”;</li>
<li>Thomas Jefferson noted in his private journal in February, 1800: “I know that Gouverneur Morris, who claimed to be in his secrets, and believed himself to be so, has often told me that General Washington believed no more in that system [Christianity] than he did.” (Gouverneur Morris was the principal drafter of the Constitution, a member of the Continental Congress, a senator from New York, a minister to France, and a freethinker);</li>
<li>Reverend Bird Wilson, an Episcopal minister, in an interview in 1831, stated concisely: “I have diligently perused every line that Washington ever gave to the public, and I do not find one expression in which he pledges himself as a believer in Christianity. I think anyone who will candidly do as I have done, will come to the conclusion that he was a Deist and nothing more.”</li>
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<p>2. John Adams (1735-1826) was the first vice-president of the U.S. and the second president (1775-1801). He played a prominent role in the committee that drafted the Declaration of Independence and then exerted strong leadership in persuading the Second Continental Congress to adopt it.</p>
<p>Although he seemed to enjoy going to the Unitarian Church and described himself as a “church going animal,” he was a Deist, and a weak one at that, as revealed in his voluminous and erudite (sprinkled with quotations in multiple languages) correspondence with Thomas Jefferson. Quotes from multiple sources attest to his religious beliefs:</p>
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<li>In a letter to his brother-in-law, Richard Cranch, in explaining why he rejected the ministry, Adams wrote: “The frightful engines of ecclesiastical councils, of diabolical malice, and Calvinistical good-nature never failed to terrify me exceedingly whenever I thought of preaching”;</li>
<li><em>Views of Religion</em> by Rufus K. Noyes records this statement: “When philosophic reason is clear and certain by intuition or necessary induction, no subsequent revelation supported by prophecies or miracles can supersede it”;</li>
<li>Adams made this observation in a letter to Thomas Jefferson: “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced”;</li>
<li>Another letter to Jefferson contained this statement: “There exists, I believe, throughout the whole Christian world, a law which makes it blasphemy to deny or doubt the divine inspiration of all the books of the Old and New Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation. In most countries of Europe it is punished by fire at the stake, or the rack, or the wheel…. Now, what free inquiry, when a writer must surely encounter the risk of fine or imprisonment for adducing any argument for investigating the divine authority of those books?”</li>
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<p>3. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) was the third president of the United States (1801-1809) and author of the Declaration of Independence. He was probably our most brilliant president and a prototypical Renaissance man, with a prodigious array of talents and accomplishments.</p>
<p>Jefferson chose this epitaph for his tomb: “Here was buried Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, of the statute of Virginia for religious freedom, and the father of the University of Virginia.” It is highly significant that he included the Virginia religious freedom statute and omitted his two terms as president. This statue clearly outlined the church-state separation concept and served as the model for the Constitution. His epitaph confirms how important he thought this separation was.</p>
<ul>
<li>In his religious beliefs he is usually classified as a Deist, but at times he sounds almost like an atheist. Of the four presidents, his views on religion are the most extensively documented. Here are a few quotes that express his beliefs, in his own words:</li>
<li>In a letter to Ezra Stiles, Jefferson wrote: “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know;”</li>
<li>Writing in <em>Notes on the State of Virginia, </em>Jefferson observed: “Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth”;</li>
<li>Jefferson, in replying to a letter of John Adams, stated: “If by religion we are to understand sectarian dogmas, in which no two of them agree, then your exclamation of that hypothesis is just, ‘that this would be the best of worlds if there were no religion in it’ “;</li>
<li>He wrote in a letter to Dr. Woods: “I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded upon fables and mythologies”;</li>
<li>Corresponding with John Adams, he noted: “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter”;</li>
<li>Even Jefferson’s belief in God seems a bit shaky in this statement in a letter to Peter Carr: “Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god….”</li>
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<p>4. James Madison (1751-1836), the fourth president of the United States (1809-1817), has often been called “the father of the constitution.” Also, more than any other person, he can be considered responsible for making the Bill of Rights part of the constitution. He helped draft the constitution of Virginia and insisted on its providing separation of church and state.</p>
<p>He was a Deist but without much depth of conviction. Here are a few quotes that reflect his attitude toward religion:</p>
<ul>
<li>In a letter to William Bradford, Jr., he observes: “Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.”</li>
<li>He notes in another letter to Bradford: “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize”;</li>
<li>Addressing the Virginia General Assembly about religious assessments, he said: “Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of Religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution”;</li>
<li>Writing in a letter objecting to the use of government land for churches, he explains: “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”</li>
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<p>Clearly, our first four presidents were not Christians, and the god they believed in was consistent with a Deistic one. In fact, the Reverend Dr. Wilson, who was almost a contemporary of our early statesmen and presidents, and extensively researched their religions, stated that the founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents elected up to his time, not one had professed a belief in Christianity. The presidents that he was referring to were the four I have discussed plus, in order, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson.</p>
<p>Some fundamentalist Christians claim that our government is founded on the Declaration of Independence, and that this document proves the founders intent was to incorporate Christian principles because of the mention of God. Of course, this contention is nonsense. First, our nation is founded on the Constitution and not the Declaration of Independence. Second, the Declaration of Independence, approved by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, and written by Thomas Jefferson, does not contain any references to a Christian anthropomorphic god. I checked the document and found four references that could be construed as being to a Deist- type entity. One reference is to “Nature’s God,” another to “Creator,” still another to “Supreme Judge of the world,” and finally one to “Divine Providence.” Third, there is no mention of Christ or Christianity in the document.</p>
<p>Our Constitution is the document that defines the structure of our government, and its understanding is crucial to answering claims by fundamentalist Christians that our nation was founded as a Christian nation. James Madison, its chief architect as previously mentioned, keenly recognized the horrors that can ensue if religion insinuates itself into government and quite deliberately constructed an obviously secular document. Not once is there a mention of any type of deity, Christ, or Christianity. In fact, the only mention of religion is in Article 6, Section 3: “No religious Test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” This article clearly separates church and state.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, Article 6 of the Constitution was not strong enough to satisfy everyone and the First Amendment to the Constitution in the Bill of Rights further delineated church-state separation: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;….”</p>
<p>Thomas Jefferson spelled out the meaning of the First Amendment even more precisely in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association: “ Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”</p>
<p>And as an unambiguous statement of the non-religious nature of our government, Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli is unexcelled. This treaty was signed into law by President John Adams and reads: “As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, ….”</p>
<p>At the time of the creation of the Constitution, the colonies were religiously diverse: Puritans, Quakers, Catholics, Lutherans, Jews, Baptists, Anglicans, and others. It can be fairly said that the colonies were predominately Christian. Nonetheless, even though some clergy vigorously, but unsuccessfully, pushed for the insertion of Christian references into the Constitution, most of them, and Americans in general, seemed to understand the concept that strict church-state separation meant greater religious freedom for all. The churches’ acceptance of the concept of strict separation stands in sharp contrast to the situation nowadays where there are unrelenting efforts by fundamentalist Christians to destroy the wall.</p>
<p>It is ironic that the Enlightenment in Europe degenerated into the excesses of the French Revolution but that its principles became established instead in our country. The Enlightenment strongly influenced the thinking leading to the American Revolutionary War and strongly influenced our leaders in setting up our secular republic. We can only speculate what form of government we would now have if our government had been formed at another time with less enlightened leaders.</p>
<p>The founders of our country clearly meant for there to be a wall between any religion, including any form of Christianity, and our government. To maintain this essential separation, our citizens and watchdog groups need to be constantly alert in resisting these incursions.</p>
<p>But to ultimately remove the assaults against the church-state wall, it is essential that another wall eventually come down, a metaphorical one that exists in the frontal lobes of the brains of fundamentalists. This wall, constructed with a material called faith, separates a rational area where truth is decided with logic and evidence from a dark, irrational region where any type of religious belief, no matter how illogical, can exist. Only when this wall is gone will fundamentalist Christians realize their beliefs are not infallible and should not be imposed on everyone.</p>
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		<title>Faith: Religion&#8217;s Achilles Heel</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Williamson MD</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word “faith” is short and appears innocuous. But it has caused much human misery in history and continues to do so presently. A good first step in addressing this problem is to appreciate that “faith,” like most words, has multiple meanings. The type of faith discussed in this essay will be confined to religious &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/914/faith-religions-achilles-heel/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>The word “faith” is short and appears innocuous. But it has caused much human misery in history and continues to do so presently. A good first step in addressing this problem is to appreciate that “faith,” like most words, has multiple meanings. The type of faith discussed in this essay will be confined to religious beliefs without supporting logic and evidence. The explanation of how faith developed will be about the Christian religion, but many of the concepts apply to religion in general.</p>
<p>The idea that any conclusion should be reached without evidence is uniquely bizarre. A person who professes belief without evidence in other than a religious context is thought of as a fool. But in the case of religion, turning a fatal logical flaw into a concept that is revered and held in awe is a remarkable achievement.</p>
<p>Faith is the very lifeblood of religion. Faith gives people license to believe in the imaginary world of the supernatural where the dead rise out of their graves and snakes talk. It provides almost impregnable protection for religion against critical inquiry. Faith is the ultimate cop-out. Completely absurd and contradictory beliefs can be justified.  If it weren’t for faith, religion could not exist. Doctrine provides the foundation of religion but without faith the doctrine would be meaningless. Lacking faith, we would never have seen the many abuses associated with monotheistic religion throughout history.</p>
<p>But how did such a foolish idea as religious faith ever come to be regarded with such awe and respect?</p>
<p>One of the major factors promoting faith was the Bible. Faith was mentioned only twice in the Old Testament but several hundred times in the New Testament. Jesus reportedly said, “If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible.” And Paul states that faith is the only way a person can be “saved” when he said, “For by grace are ye saved through faith … not of works, lest any man should boast.”</p>
<p>Nowhere in the Bible does it state that the truth would be revealed through logic and evidence. In fact, it consistently discourages the acquisition of knowledge by these means and instead touts the superiority of knowledge arrived at by faith. The story about Thomas the doubter is a dramatic example of the glorifying of faith. Alone among the disciples, Thomas asked for proof of the extraordinary claim of resurrection, a request that most rational people would consider quite reasonable.  Jesus accepted the challenge and provided proof that satisfied Thomas. But then in John 20:29 Christ demolishes the idea of religious skepticism and elevates faith to a profound virtue with this irrational statement: “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” With this passage, Christians would hence regard anyone who exhibited skepticism about their religious claims as “a doubting Thomas.” Religious skepticism became a sin.</p>
<p>Tertullian (c.160-c.230), a Roman theologian and Christian, pushed the virtue of faith to its ultimate. He was the son of a centurion and well educated, especially in law. Tertullian is mainly famous for the quote: “It is certain because it is impossible,” often incorrectly quoted as, “I believe it because it is impossible.” In other words, he thought that if a religious belief seemed impossible, that seeming impossibility made it certain. He believed that the more impossible a religious belief seemed, the more it would strengthen a person’s faith.</p>
<p>Christian leaders through the centuries further fortified the idea of the power of faith by continued propaganda. However, as science in the last few centuries began explaining the working of the Universe through natural means and religion began losing every battle with science, faith began taking a beating.</p>
<p>To counteract this negative trend, conservative Christians staged a series of meetings called the “Niagara Conferences.” The people attracted to the cause were generally poor, rural, and not well educated. It was ironic that two rich, urban, well educated oil tycoons, the Stewart brothers, Lyman and Milton, gave the movement its biggest boost. They financed a series of twelve booklets entitled The Fundamentals (1910-1915). In these booklets the five basic fundamentals necessary to be a “true” Christian were publicized, the ones that had been agreed on at the Niagara conferences. These fundamentals included:</p>
<p>(1) The virgin birth of Jesus Christ<br />
(2) The complete inerrancy of the Bible<br />
(3) Christ&#8217;s atonement for the sins of man on the cross<br />
(4) The divine status of Christ<br />
(5) The Resurrection and the Second Coming of Christ.</p>
<p>Christian Fundamentalists with their dogmatic claims were now in a position to answer the conclusions reached by scientific (critical) thinking. Since the Fundamentalists&#8217; conclusions were based on an inerrant source, the direct word of God as revealed in the Bible, then henceforth their conclusions would trump any amount of conclusions reached by logic and evidence. And what was it that rendered this Fundamentalist doctrine valid? Faith, of course. Faith and only faith.</p>
<p>And this strategy from a numerical standpoint has been successful. The Christian Fundamentalist denominations, energized by the renewed empowerment of faith, have been the most rapidly growing of all Christian denominations.</p>
<p>This renewed glorification of faith produces major problems for society. Religious claims based on faith cannot be resolved. The citing of an infallible source ends all rational discussion and sets one group in society against another, or is even divisive within a religious group itself.</p>
<p>A few examples show the detrimental effects of faith-based decisions:</p>
<p><strong>Evolution</strong>. Despite being one of the most thoroughly documented conclusions in all of science, Christian Fundamentalists return again and again with some version of Creationism. Belief in Creationism is also behind Fundamentalists’ denial of the scientifically well documented “big bang theory.” In effect, they are claiming that the Bible is a scientific textbook. The denial of the scientific evidence can lead to a type of child abuse since their children don&#8217;t receive proper scientific educations and are launched into a scientifically-oriented society with a major handicap.</p>
<p><strong>Homosexuality</strong>. There is now much scientific evidence that sexual preference is inborn. But those holding faith-based conclusions don&#8217;t want to hear any of the scientific information. They want to hear only what the Bible says. Again, they are using the Bible as a pseudo-scientific textbook.</p>
<p><strong>Abortion</strong> and <strong>Stem Cell Therapy</strong>. Whatever one&#8217;s conclusions are on these subjects, they should not be based on an embryo having a soul. There is no scientific evidence that a soul exists in an embryo or any other living organism.</p>
<p><strong>Women’s Rights</strong>. The Biblical view is the one that those relying on religious faith use as a guideline for the treatment of women. They show little interest in the scientific studies about women.</p>
<p><strong>Science</strong>. Although those using faith-based conclusions readily accept the benefits provided by science, they otherwise have an antipathy toward it since scientific conclusions are regularly in conflict with their faith-based ones. They tend to minimize scientific study for themselves and their children.</p>
<p><strong>Church-State Separation</strong>. The true believers have faith in the infallibility of their beliefs and see no reason why they shouldn&#8217;t impose them on everybody. They are just doing God&#8217;s work.</p>
<p><strong>Abstinence-Only Programs for Teenagers</strong>. The faith-based conclusion is that premarital sex is sinful and that abstinence-only programs should be promoted using religious zealotry. Recent scientific studies show that these programs simply don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Although Christian Fundamentalists rely on and glorify faith more than moderate Christian denominations, the latter also base their religious conclusions on faith, but usually with less dogmatism. Nevertheless, moderate Christians also help perpetuate the idea that faith is a valid way to arrive at truth about the material Universe. In doing so, they encourage the extreme views of the Christian Fundamentalists by seldom criticizing these views.</p>
<p>Most faith-based religious conclusions that are detrimental to society involve the material Universe, not what many freethinkers would regard as an imaginary spiritual region. Science with its use of logic and evidence has earned the right to be the sole interpreter of how the material Universe works by always being right in its numerous fights with religion.</p>
<p>Imagine an ideal world where people realize that faith is a bogus way to reach any valid conclusion, even a religious one. Conflicts would only be resolved using logic and evidence. No longer would debates end when a believer slammed a faith-based door in another person&#8217;s face.  This dream can be realized by explaining to the media and the public the reasons that conclusions based on faith are irrational and detrimental to society.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Davis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I attended church for years in multiple places. I asked many questions which were never answered. Indeed, it seemed that no one that I knew had ever asked themselves the questions that plagued me. One day I was in Sunday School in a Methodist church which I had been attending for several months. The teacher &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/760/sweet-blindness/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>I attended church for years in multiple places. I asked many questions which were never answered. Indeed, it seemed that no one that I knew had ever asked themselves the questions that plagued me.</p>
<p>One day I was in Sunday School in a Methodist church which I had been attending for several months. The teacher was an optometrist in the area. The class members were all college graduates. So, it was a well educated group. The discussion on that Sunday was about God being in control of everything. I brought up the fact that it bothered me that there are millions of people in Africa, Asia, South America, and elsewhere in the world who are dying or barely surviving because of hunger and disease.</p>
<p>The teacher said in a concerned manner that it seemed like I was saying that God is unfair. (How could I do such a thing?) I told him that I was bringing up this problem in the hopes that there is a sensible reason that such an enormous amount of hunger and poverty exists even though God is in control. He asked me what my basis was for thinking these conditions actually existed. This question was as shocking to me as if he had asked me what made me think that cancer existed. After a pause I said, &#8220;From multiple sources: magazines, newspapers, televisions, even through church mission drives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, this worthy man of God turned to the other members of the class and said, &#8220;Have any of you folks seen proof that such conditions exist?&#8221; There was another long pause. Finally after what seemed like an hour, a lady said, &#8220;Yes, there are such conditions. I am a nurse and I have seen a lot of evidence of these conditions in my studies and my work.&#8221; No one else said anything. The class ended then without further comment and everybody left. I never heard anything more about it, neither from the teacher nor from the members of the class.</p>
<p>Even a massive disaster does not seem to tickle the brain cells of many Christians. When horrible tragedies happen which make rational people at least question whether there is a personal God protecting us, many true believers respond with neither pity nor doubt. I think some people simply don&#8217;t want to discuss the topic, either because of shyness or insecurity. Many, however, see no inconsistency between the tragic loss of thousands of innocent lives and their belief that God is in complete control.</p>
<p>When the AIDS epidemic was at its peak, one of the members of the same Sunday School class remarked to me that AIDS was God&#8217;s punishment for the victims&#8217; sins. The horrible pain that victims of AIDS suffer aroused no sympathy in him. Neither did the fact there were many babies who were victims of this dreadful disease.</p>
<p>On another Sunday a woman announced in class that she could not understand why people felt so sorry for the Jews. She said, &#8220;After all, they killed Christ.&#8221; Except for me, no one responded to her idiotic comment.</p>
<p>This extreme callousness, if we think about it, is exactly what one would expect of true believers in a religion in which the culmination of all of history is Armaggeden, which will, in the minds of the faithful, result in the brutal murder of everyone on earth, except for the relatively few &#8220;chosen.&#8221; Afterword, those murdered, though dead, will be thrown into the pit of fire to suffer forever. Far from being saddened by their belief in such a bleak future for mankind, this stellar event in their eyes is looked forward to with joyous anticipation.</p>
<p>This brings to mind the title of the old Fifth Dimension song, &#8220;Sweet Blindness.&#8221; Many Christians will use any number of rationalizations to justify their false sense of security. Believers either deny the existence of unfairness in this world or rationalize it in a variety of different ways. &#8220;It is the wages of sin.&#8221; &#8220;It&#8217;s God&#8217;s will.&#8221; &#8220;God will make all things right in the end.&#8221; &#8220;She will be a better person because of it.&#8221; The believer can then go blithely on with his or her life undisturbed by the most horrific events. The faithful are also relieved, at least in their minds, from any responsibility to do anything to prevent otherwise preventable mass suffering. The belief that God is in control of all things at all times and that those who are chosen will enjoy eternal bliss in heaven compels the faithful to focus on the hereafter rather than on real life suffering that is occurring today and urgently needs attention.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Blough</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Early in my Junior year of high school, my mom decided to move back &#8220;home&#8221; to West Virginia. Well, it was still home for her, at least, but after a decade in Florida it was no longer home for me; I felt terribly out of place. I was a strange and lonely kid who read &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/754/being-saved-by-the-baptists/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Early in my Junior year of high school, my mom decided to move back &#8220;home&#8221; to West Virginia. Well, it was still home for her, at least, but after a decade in Florida it was no longer home for me; I felt terribly out of place. I was a strange and lonely kid who read too much and thought too much, and was stuck in the most awkward time of my life. So, when an older cousin asked me to join her church youth group, I did, hoping to find a place to fit in.</p>
<p>I guess I did fit in, for a while. I developed a crush on one of the boys at church and everyone was just so nice. The other kids had all been saved and baptized and the whole congregation seemed so excited about it when a newly saved soul headed up the aisle to pledge their heart to Jeebus. I wanted everyone to like me, so I decided to do it too. That was a very pleasant time for a shy gal in need of approval. Everyone hugged me, smiled at me, told me what a wonderful child I was. A dream come true for one sorely lacking in self esteem!</p>
<p>A few weeks later I had my baptismal ceremony and it was actually quite an uplifting experience. I had that mystical &#8216;god&#8217; feeling that you read about; I honestly thought I felt surrounded by god&#8217;s presence! (As it turns out, a short time later I found I got that same feeling at large rock concerts where the crowd is intensely emotional and focused on the performer.) Everyone continued to heap attention upon me for about the next week, until the next big thing came along &#8211; Revival!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve never been to a Baptist revival, it is truly something to behold. Guest preachers come from far away, having prepared their best, loudest, most intense fire-and-brimstone sermons. It can go on for several weeks, with different speeches throughout the week. (If you have a morbid curiosity and a high BS tolerance, you should try one sometime, if only for reference.) Our regular pastor was not an intense man, normally. He much preferred the &#8220;god is love&#8221; kind of sermon, and I suppose, so did his flock. When I attended, the morning service was fairly normal, and I suspected nothing. The evening service though, was horrifying&#8230; it was entirely too much for a sixteen year old, and I thought I would be sick before the night was over.</p>
<p>Revival was everything you&#8217;ve ever seen on TV, and perhaps more. Lakes of fire, eternal suffering and pain, demons, and so on. I hated every second of it. I had been to church before, and I knew that bad people went to hell, but this&#8230;this was way beyond some mild-mannered concept of detention or maybe jail. The fear and hate I felt in the room was so diametrically different from the happy glow I had felt in that very same room just one week before that I couldn&#8217;t begin to understand it. How could this be the same god? How could a loving god hold you in his hand and protect you in one moment and then decide to torture you forever in the next moment? And for what? As far as I could tell, nearly everything was sinful, and you had to live in fear all of the time in order to keep right with this monster.</p>
<p>That was the last time I ever went to that church or willingly went to any church. Fortunately my mom didn&#8217;t seem to mind. She was mostly a Christmas and Easter kind of Christian anyway. A few months later we wound up back in Florida &#8211; which turned out to be more &#8220;home&#8221; for both of us than mom had realized &#8211; so I didn&#8217;t have to deal very long with the guilt my cousin or my former friends tried to heap upon me.</p>
<p>It took me a long time to figure out what I was going to do with all of those contradictions about the Baptist god. I continued to read too much and think too much, of course. In time I realized that there was so much more that I couldn&#8217;t reconcile, and that it just didn&#8217;t seem realistic to believe that Christians had the answers. It took me even longer to figure out that nobody else had the answers either. Today I still can&#8217;t be positive of what the answer is, but I finally feel that I have a pretty good idea what it is not.</p>
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		<title>Book Review &#8211; Jesus Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and Why We Don&#8217;t Know About Them)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim OMalley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bart Ehrman is a bible scholar who started his career as a conservative evangelical, but eventually became an agnostic. Most of his students and colleagues are believers so he never ridicules Christianity. He just gives a clear, dispassionate account of its historical origins. For me, his polite tone made his critique even more devastating. For &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/730/book-review-jesus-interrupted/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><a href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jesus-interrupted-cover-jpeg.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-732" title="jesus-interrupted-cover-jpeg" src="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jesus-interrupted-cover-jpeg-200x300.jpg" alt="Book Review   Jesus Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and Why We Dont Know About Them)" width="200" height="300" /></a>Bart Ehrman is a bible scholar who started his career as a conservative evangelical, but eventually became an agnostic. Most of his students and colleagues are believers so he never ridicules Christianity. He just gives a clear, dispassionate account of its historical origins. For me, his polite tone made his critique even more devastating.</p>
<p>For example, here&#8217;s his summary of the historical evidence for the miracles of Jesus.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Our first records of any of Jesus&#8217; public miracles were written thirty-five to sixty-five years after the fact, by people who had not seen any of these things happen, who were basing their stories on oral traditions that had been passed down for decades among people who were trying to convince others to believe in Jesus. And these records are absolutely filled with discrepancies&#8230;&#8221; (pg. 173)</p></blockquote>
<p>And how much does he think stories can change when they&#8217;ve been told and retold for decades?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;Did you or your kids ever play the telephone game at a birthday party? &#8230; imagine playing telephone&#8230; for forty or more years, in different countries, in different contexts, in different languages&#8230;&#8221; (pg. 147)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;This is how Christianity spread, year after year, decade after decade, until eventually someone wrote down the stories.&#8221; (pg. 146)</p></blockquote>
<p>And the telephone game didn&#8217;t stop when people started writing down the stories. To give just one example, none of the earliest Christian writings referred to Jesus as being divine; this was a later invention. As Ehrman puts it:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;if Jesus claimed he was divine, it seemed very strange indeed that Mathew, Mark, and Luke all failed to say anything about it. Did they just forget to mention that part?&#8221; (pg. 141)</p></blockquote>
<p>Throughout the book Ehrman traces the evolution of the stories that eventually became the core of Christianity. Besides the divinity of Jesus these include the invention of the trinity, the virgin birth, and the existence of heaven and hell.</p>
<p>I especially enjoyed his description of the different types of Christianity that existed before they were steamrolled by the Roman church. For the sake of brevity I&#8217;ll give just two examples, but Ehrman describes many others.</p>
<p>The Marcionites were Christian polytheists. They believed that Jesus and Yahweh were two completely different gods. Yahweh was a vengeful and unforgiving god who had condemned all of humanity, and Jesus was a merciful god who came to earth to save us from Yahweh&#8217;s wrath. Unfortunately for the Marcionites the New Testament didn&#8217;t exist yet so they couldn&#8217;t learn about the insane mental gymnastics of the holy trinity, and how this &#8220;solved&#8221; the Jesus/Yahweh problem by uniting them into <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">two</span> three gods who were actually the same god. But on the plus side, the Marcionites had their own sacred books and their own apologists who made detailed arguments that proved that they were right.</p>
<p>The early Gnostic Christians were also polytheists. They believed that this world was a cosmic mistake that was created by ignorant and incompetent deities. But a damage-control deity took pity on us and decided to help us out. So he had his spirit take control of a man named Jesus, who he used as a sort of living sock-puppet to communicate secret knowledge that we could use to get out of this mess.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This might not sound like the kind of Christianity you learned about in Sunday school, but it was very popular in many regions of the early church. Salvation came not by having faith in Jesus&#8217; death and resurrection but by understanding the secret teaching that he revealed.&#8221; (pg. 196)</p></blockquote>
<p>What surprised me was that these were not fringe beliefs &#8211; in many parts of the world they were more popular than the kinds of Christianity found in the New Testament. In fact, Ehrman states that whenever archaeologists discover early Christian texts they are always &#8220;heretical,&#8221; in the sense that they always reflect views that are very different than those in the New Testament. And this strongly implies that at one time the &#8220;heretical&#8221; forms of Christianity were the norm and not the rare exception.</p>
<p>What happened to all these different forms of Christianity? Well, one particular Christian sect which was particularly well organized and Machiavellian happened to win the struggle for converts in Rome, and&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;when the Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in the early fourth century, he converted to this victorious form of faith. When Christianity later became the official religion of the empire, about fifty years after Constantine, it was this form that was accepted by nearly everyone&#8230;&#8221; (pg. 197)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;This Roman group&#8230; eventually stamped out all its competition, declared itself orthodox, argued that its views really were those of Jesus and the apostles, claimed that it had always been the majority view, and then &#8211; as a final coup de grace &#8211; rewrote the history of the conflict&#8230;&#8221; (pg. 214)</p></blockquote>
<p>So a vast range of different forms of Christianity, which all had their own holy books, which they all claimed were quoting Jesus and his apostles, were basically just made to disappear. And a small percentage of Christian writings, which were no more &#8220;authentic&#8221; than the others, were given a stamp of approval and became what we now call the &#8220;New Testament.&#8221; It didn&#8217;t matter that most of the texts in the New Testament were either forgeries or anonymous works that were attributed to the apostles purely to deceive people into viewing them as being more authoritative than they actually were.</p>
<p>Ehrman stresses repeatedly that the vast majority of bible scholars hold this view of the history of Christianity, and it is taught in most bible colleges and seminaries. So why is it that so few people in the predominantly Christian US know about it? Ehrman answers simply, &#8220;your guess is as good as mine.&#8221; (pg. 137)</p>
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		<title>God, The Bible, and the Constitution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Frier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Mike Huckabee, who is a Baptist minister, stated &#8220;I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it&#8217;s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that&#8217;s what &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/692/god-the-bible-and-the-constitution/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>In the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Mike Huckabee, who is a Baptist minister, stated &#8220;I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it&#8217;s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that&#8217;s what we need to do &#8211; to amend the Constitution so it&#8217;s in God&#8217;s standards rather than try to change God&#8217;s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement should be of serious concern to every thinking, patriotic American and anyone who values freedom.</p>
<p>Mr. Huckabee, asked during one of the debates if he believed in the Bible, said he thought the Bible was the inerrant word of God. My question to him is just what part of the Constitution would he like to amend using the standards God supports and sanctions in the Holy Bible?</p>
<p>Perhaps he would like to bring back slavery, which is rampant throughout the Bible with no objection from the Lord.  Maybe he would like to see torture sanctioned. According to a recent Pew poll on the &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques&#8221; authorized by the Bush/Cheney administration, the majority of Christians have no problem with torture. But most people know that when you torture someone, they will confess to or say just about anything and truth is not necessarily the outcome. Think of the Inquisition, witch hunts, and burning heretics at the stake.</p>
<p>By amending the Constitution, Mr. Huckabee could make abortion a crime, even though &#8220;abortion&#8221; is not mentioned in the Bible. Pro lifers cite Exodus 21:22-25 to justify their stance, but this passage actually says that if a man strikes his pregnant wife, causing her &#8220;fruit to depart,&#8221; the wife can punish the husband. But if the wife dies, he gets the death penalty. The punishment is for killing the woman not the child. The Bible has chapters and verses filled with God authorizing the killing of men, women, and children. (See 2 Kings 2:23-24, 1 Samuel 15:3, Deuteronomy 2:34, Isaiah 13:16 to name a few.) No matter how one interprets or justifies these passages, the Bible does not appear to be pro life.</p>
<p>As for homosexuality, in Leviticus 20:13 the penalty is death for both parties. However, the death penalty also applies to adultery (Leviticus 20:10). The two verses on homosexuality appear to be paramount to Christians, who think they know what constitutes a loving marriage (between a man and a woman) and healthy family values. Their definition of what and whom a marriage and family consist of is just as antiquated as the person/s who wrote Leviticus. The basis for their value system is also ironic since currently 50% of all marriages between men and women end in divorce.</p>
<p>How would adulterers feel, I wonder, if society treated them the same as homosexuals? There would be those who would justify killing them because the Bible said it was what they deserve. It is we the people who see just how insane this is and have begun to rectify the erroneous situation by introducing governmental hate bills.</p>
<p>Moreover, for all the ministers like Mr. Huckabee who are concerned about not being able to rant about the &#8220;abomination&#8221; of homosexuality, think about this. Priests and pedophiles and other adult deviants are raping young children as I write this. If Christian ministers want to express outrage or do something about the lives of &#8216;living&#8217; children, let these people be their sermon. Consenting adult homosexuals don&#8217;t hurt anyone.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the issue of women. Women in many societies have come a long way, but equality between the sexes is still not fully realized. Women&#8217;s status is debased in much of the Bible. They are blamed for the original sin and are held in contempt. &#8220;I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee,&#8221; God says to woman in Genesis 3:13. Would Mr. Huckabee and his Christian friends mandate women to be subservient to their husbands?</p>
<p>In short, I can&#8217;t imagine what Mr. Huckabee has in mind for amending the Constitution. God is very deliberately not mentioned in that document. The men who drafted it were not affirming or applying Christian or God&#8217;s standards when they wrote it. What kind of committee would be formed for Mr. Huckabee&#8217;s amendment undertaking and who would be on it? How would those who disagreed with or disobeyed their amendments be punished? Stoned to death or discriminated against and relegated to the fringes of society as many still are today who disagree with religious dogma and orthodoxy?</p>
<p>We do not get our morality from any holy book or religious dogma. &#8220;We the people&#8221; use reason, logic, and critical thinking when distinguishing right from wrong. There are those who do the right thing &#8220;in the name of God&#8221; and those who do not believe in God who do the right thing simply because it&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Much immorality has occurred throughout history &#8220;in the name of God.&#8221; Belief in God is still the basis for many atrocities today. The more pious a country is and the more it intermingles its religion with its government, the more oppressive and dangerous it is for its citizens. Hopefully more and more people will come to realize this. The US Constitution must remain secular, as the framers intended.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>When considering ancient stories of miracles, we have to keep in mind the problem of translation and revision. For instance, many scholars believe that the word people have translated through the ages as &#8220;carpenter&#8221; may have been mistranslated. &#8220;Laborer&#8221; is probably more accurate. (See, for one, <em>Gospel Truth</em> by Russell Shorto). For all we know, Jesus and his pa, Joseph, were stone-masons, which is an equally likely interpretation. In a desert region where stone was a primary building material, this makes as much sense as carpenter. These are not abstract terms, and yet their interpretation is far from clear. Carpenter, stone-mason; resurrected, remembered &#8212; what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
<p>The alleged resurrection of Jesus is of course the essential Christian miracle story. It alone propelled the character of Jesus into godhood. Without the resurrection, there is no Christianity, no Easter chocolates.  Well, maybe we&#8217;d still have the colorful, edible treats borrowed from pagan springtime fertility rituals.  But crucifix sales would certainly be much different today.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;truth&#8221; of the resurrection of Jesus, how do we know it really happened? Any video footage? Any unbiased observers? Nope. People today claim to know it through the years-after-the-facts writings of few loyal followers. That was how the faith gained a foothold and grew. One gospel version of the resurrection story tells of this experience of Mary Magdalene: <em>At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus</em> (John, 20:14).</p>
<p>Maybe Jesus was neither a carpenter nor a stone-mason, but a UPS driver, and the uniform threw her off. We&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>Is an ancient collection of stories variously translated (and in many instances mistranslated, no doubt), a good source for basing one&#8217;s understand of reality upon?</p>
<p>I, for one, don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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