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		<title>The Charitable Atheist</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people don&#8217;t have to think very hard to come up with organizations they believe are compassionate and moral. Churches and faith-based organizations usually come to mind. It&#8217;s a misconception, however, that “religion” is the only measure of morality and that only religious people do good work. There are also many secular/atheist charitable organizations in &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/892/the-charitable-atheist/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Most people don&#8217;t have to think very hard to come up with organizations they believe are compassionate and moral. Churches and faith-based organizations usually come to mind. It&#8217;s a misconception, however, that “religion” is the only measure of morality and that only religious people do good work.</p>
<p>There are also many secular/atheist charitable organizations in the United States and around the world made up of caring, compassionate, moral, ethical, intelligent people doing tireless work to ease pain and suffering and educate and promote peace. Think of Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International , Oxfam International, The American Red Cross, and The Union for Concerned Scientists, to name a few.  Many secular, atheist, agnostic, nonreligious individuals also quietly contribute to charities of their choice and to their communities.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not surprising, however, that nonbelievers have not been acknowledged as participants in charity.  Historically, our communities have been structured so that churches are the main means for large numbers of people to gather to promote and implement charitable work. The following quote from the web site <a href="http://beingism.org/community/" target="_blank">Beingism.org</a> makes this point:</p>
<blockquote><p>It may be that nonreligious individuals are less likely to form communities than their religious counterparts. Certainly, the lack of a preexisting community (such as an established church) is a relative hindrance to community-building. No doubt also willingness to question pervasive social norms, particularly when they are part of belief systems from which most people derive emotional, social, and/or financial support, probably tends to accompany an individualistic (rather than community-oriented) approach to life. In addition, social stigma reduces the community resources available to nonreligious people, both financially (e.g., nonreligious institutions are not given the same financial benefits as faith-based organizations) and socially (e.g., fear of discrimination leads to increased difficulty in reaching out to find others with similar values). Unfortunately, these factors have fractured communities of nonreligious people, making it extremely difficult for them to agree upon or articulate a positive vision for the future or to create change. This lack of community also leads religious communities to conclude that nonreligious people are without ethics.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the biggest myths still being perpetrated is that atheists/nonbelievers are selfish, immoral heretics. The very word ‘atheist’ conjures up images of Hitler, Pol Pot, and Stalin. Take Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s Fox News interview with Richard Dawkins. O’Reilly implied that it was ‘atheism’ that led these heinous men to commit crimes against humanity. Mr. Dawkins was given little time to rebut this stupidity.</p>
<p>Religion is everywhere. We are inundated with religious television programming seven days a week. Religious pundits regularly demonize and dismiss secular humanists, atheists, agnostics, and those who are nonreligious, leaving no room for further dialogue or understanding.  The Internet has many sites educating the public about nonbelief, but I doubt that many Christians or other religious folks visit these sites. If they do, it&#8217;s to excoriate what is said there, not to understand it.</p>
<p>Few religious people have any grasp of the challenges that atheists must deal wth.  People risk losing their jobs, family, friends, and their standing in their community when they go public about their nonbelief. They&#8217;re left to feel that they exist in a secret, underground, fringe community whose freedoms are in jeopardy if they speak their truth. I think most religious people would be shocked to learn how many nonbelievers there are in the US. Some are probably sitting in pews on most Saturdays or Sundays, right next to believers.</p>
<p>Nonbelievers come from every walk of life. We&#8217;re teachers, lawyers, doctors, nurses, technicians, engineers, gardeners, janitors, soldiers, homemakers, florist, bankers (good ones), politicians (also good ones), you name it. What distinguishes us is that we have learned to THINK FOR OURSELVES; we are free thinkers. We don&#8217;t need religious dogma to tell us how to do good work or what it means to be a moral, compassionate human being.</p>
<p>Most atheists who donate their time, money, and energy to charity are not motivated by the wrath of a supernatural entity, by institutionalized pressures to do good work, or by expected Earthly or Heavenly rewards. Yes, there are atheists/nonbelievers who are hateful, inhumane, and mean spirited, just as there religious people who are hateful, inhumane and mean spirited too. These negative descriptors are not synonymous only with atheism.</p>
<p>It must be frightening to religious believers to realize that the number of nonbelievers is growing. Due to the prevailing ignorance perpetuated by believers with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, it&#8217;s time for organizations of nonreligious freethinkers to do whatever they can to educate the public and dispel the age-old myth that atheists/nonbelievers are immoral, selfish, and not charitable. Atheists need to become more vocal and visible in numbers, not just as lone activists doing anonymous good works, not for recognition per se, but for educational purposes so that anyone now and in the future can be free to choose not to believe.</p>
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		<title>In God We Trust? &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ann Frier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us suppose that the government is entirely at one with the people, and never thinks of exerting any power of coercion unless in agreement with what it conceives to be their voice. But I deny the right of the people to exercise such coercion, either by themselves or by their government. The power itself &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/841/in-god-we-trust-part-2/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><blockquote><p>Let us suppose that the government is entirely at one with the people, and never thinks of exerting any power of coercion unless in agreement with what it conceives to be their voice. But I deny the right of the people to exercise such coercion, either by themselves or by their government. The power itself is illegitimate. The best government has no more title to it than the worst. It is as noxious, or more noxious, when exerted in accordance with public opinion, than when in opposition to it. If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.</p>
<p>&#8211; John Stuart Mill, Chapter II: Of the Liberty of Thought and Discussion, <em>On Liberty </em>(1859), quoted from Ed and Michael Buckner, &#8220;Quotations that Support the Separation of State and Church</p></blockquote>
<p>In Part 1 I mentioned the letter written by the Reverend M.R. Watkinson to the Secretary of the Treasury, Salmon P. Chase. Written November 13, 1861, this was the first request according to the U.S. Treasury Department for the recognition of God on U.S. coins. The Rev. Watkinson was a Baptist minister and Secretary Chase an Anglican/Episcopalian.</p>
<p>The letter reads as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>You are are about to submit you annual report to Congress respecting the affairs of the national finances.</p>
<p>One fact touching our currency has hitherto been seriously overlooked. I mean the recognition of the Almighty God in some form on our coins.</p>
<p>You are probably a Christian. What if our Republic were now shattered beyond reconstruction? Would not the antiquaries of succeeding centuries rightly reason from our past that we were a heathen nation? What I propose is that instead of the goddess of liberty we shall have next inside the 13 stars a ring inscribed with the words &#8216;perpetual union&#8217;; within this ring the all seeing eye, crowned with a halo; beneath the eye the American flag, bearing in its field stars equal to the number of the States united. In the folds of the bars the words, &#8216;God, liberty, law.&#8217;</p>
<p>This would make a beautiful coin, to which no possible citizen could object. This would relieve us from the ignominy of heathenism. This would place us openly under the Divine protection we have personally claimed. From my heart I have felt our national shame in disowning God not the least of our present national disasters.</p>
<p>To you first I address a subject that must be agitated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Secretary Chase replied:</p>
<blockquote><p>No nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins. You will cause a device to be prepared without unnecessary delay with a motto expressing in the fewest and tersest words possible this national recognition.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; was approved December 9, 1863.</p>
<p>It seems clear that both Rev. Watkinson and Sec. Chase are Christian. Rev. Watkinson did not say in the second paragraph, &#8220;You are probably a non-Christian or Jew or Muslim, but said, &#8220;You are a probably a Christian.&#8221; He seems concerned that the nation had, in some way, disowned God. I am not sure what he meant unless he is referring to our secular constitution and the men of the Enlightenment who drafted it. His prime motivation for having God&#8217;s name on coins is his awareness of America&#8217;s past brutal injustices and inequities, calling it a &#8220;heathen nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did Rev. Watkinson think putting God&#8217;s name on coins and having an &#8220;all seeing eye crowned with a halo&#8221; would set things aright, alleviate the &#8220;ignominy of heathenism,&#8221; and that &#8220;no possible citizen could object?&#8221; No citizen or any other religious entity was ever asked!</p>
<p>Having God&#8217;s name, Christian or otherwise, on currency or any other property has not stopped inhumane practice anywhere in the world. It serves no purpose except in the minds of believers. Human beings commit crimes against humanity and human beings can end these brutalities. Invoking God does nothing.</p>
<p>These two Christians, Rev. Watkinson and Sec. Chase, were responsible for this action. Politicians and other state and federal government officials who are Christian have tried, and are still trying, to inscribe &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; (or the Ten Commandments) on federal and state buildings. Making &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; the national motto is incredibly disrespectful to those who practice the many other religions in the U.S. (or practice no religion at all).  It is equally incredible that it was ever allowed.</p>
<p>What I cannot understand is how the Supreme Court can rule that the motto is not wholly Christian and not an explicit breech of the separation of church and State.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision written by Justice Black, held: The &#8216;establishment of religion&#8217; clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither the state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/830/in-god-we-trust-part-1/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision written by Justice Black, held:</p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8216;establishment of religion&#8217; clause of the First Amendment means at least this:</p>
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<li>Neither the state nor the Federal Government can set up a church.</li>
<li>Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another.</li>
<li>Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion.</li>
<li>No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non attendance.</li>
<li>No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion.</li>
<li>Neither state nor Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs or any religious organizations or groups and vice versa.</li>
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<p>In the words of Jefferson, the clause against the establishment of religion by law was intended to erect &#8220;a wall of separation between church and State.</p></blockquote>
<p>For a very long time there has been much controversy and debating about the constitutionality of the national motto &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; and the phrase &#8220;under God&#8221; in the Pledge of Allegiance. Are they a breech of the separation of Church and State and the clause against the establishment of religion put forth by Thomas Jefferson? This dilemma may never be settled because of the many different interpretations of Jefferson&#8217;s words and their meaning.</p>
<p>The following is my interpretation of how these phrases came to be. It should shed light on whether or not these terms are of religious intent and prefer one religion over all others. The Supreme Court has most often ruled that this not the case.</p>
<p>On July 4, 1776 congress appointed Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and John Adams to prepare a design for the Great Seal of the United States. In August their first design was submitted to Congress with the motto &#8220;E Pluribus Unum,&#8221; which means out of many, one. The design was rejected (not the motto), as were five other designs over the next five years.</p>
<p>In 1782 Congress asked Mr. Charles Thomson, the Secretary of Congress, to complete the project. He and his friend Mr. Barton produced a design of an eagle with a heart-shaped shield, holding arrows and an olive branch in its claws. The motto &#8220;E Pluribus Unum&#8221; was on the scroll held in the eagle&#8217;s beak. The design has been modified slightly in that the shield is not heart shaped and there are thirteen stars for the thirteen colonies over the eagles head. This motto was never made into a law but was considered the de facto motto of the United States for 174 years, until 1956. The motto was used on some federal coins beginning in 1795.</p>
<p>In 1812 our young nation, still struggling after the Revolution, found itself at war once again. In 1814 prisoner of war Francis Scott Key wrote <em>The Star Spangled Banner</em> during a very difficult time. His song, as we all know, eventually became our national anthem. The final stanza initially read:</p>
<blockquote><p>And this be our motto,&#8217;In God is our trust.&#8217;<br />
And the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave<br />
O&#8217;re the land of the free and the home of the brave.</p></blockquote>
<p>Many believe this is where the idea for the present US motto came from. This seems to be the first usage of such a phrase but was not applied to anything pertaining to the government until 1864. It has never been used by Jews or Muslims or any other monotheistic or polytheistic religion with the exception of Christianity.</p>
<p>At the beginning of the Civil War in 1861, a group of Protestants started a campaign to add references to God to the U.S. Constitution and other federal documents, an process that continues to this day. The Reverend M.R. Watkinson, a Baptist minister,  wrote a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase promoting the concept. It wasn&#8217;t until 1863 that Mr. Chase asked James Pollock, the Director of the Mint, to come up with a suitable motto for Union coins. After considering several different wordings, he picked &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; and Congress passed the legislation in 1864. It took another Act of congress to have the motto placed on other U.S. coins between 1886 and 1916. &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; has been in continuous use on the one-cent coin since 1909 and on the ten-cent coin since 1916. It has also appeared on all gold coins and silver dollar coins, half-dollar coins, and quarter-dollar coins since 1908. But at that point it was still not on paper currency.</p>
<p>Another 40 years passed.</p>
<p>On July 20, 1956  the 84th Congress passed a law, approved by President Dwight Eisenhower, declaring &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; the national motto of the United States, usurping the de facto &#8220;E Pluribus Unum.&#8221; It was first used on paper money in 1957 and was on all money by 1966.</p>
<p>This law was, in part, due to the state of our nation. The McCarthy communist witch hunt was rampant; it was the height of the Cold War. People were fearful and distrustful. This atmosphere was ripe for religious fervor to thrive. Paramount on the minds of many was having God on our side to fight the godless communists. The phrase &#8220;under God&#8221; was added to the Pledge of Allegiance during this same period, authorized by the President.</p>
<p>What interests me is those who insist the motto and phrase are not religious and do not promote one particular religion. Yet it is the religious and those of the Christian faith in particular who were responsible for, and the most vocal about, adding the terms to our currency and pledge. Christian believers today are lobbying to have &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; inscribed on federal and state buildings and state license plates, etc.</p>
<p>What would these people of Christian faith, most of whom also proclaim allegiance to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to our Constitution, do if the Muslim community insisted that we have &#8220;In Allah We Trust&#8221; added to the currency and other prominent places? Allah and God are separate deities worshiped by two different religious groups in America where freedom of religion is protected. Would Muslims have the right to lobby for this? How would Christians respond to this?</p>
<p>What about Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and other religious minorities? And atheist agnostics, secular humanists who reside in America? Could they lobby for their own phrases, according to their beliefs or nonbeliefs, to be included on currency and elsewhere? Wouldn&#8217;t that be fair?</p>
<p>What mottos might these groups want included on our currency and government buildings? &#8220;In God We Trust, But Not In Jesus&#8221;, &#8220;In Braham, Vishnu, and Shiva We Trust&#8221;, &#8220;In The Buddha And Inner Peace We Trust&#8221;, and &#8220;In Reason, Secularism And Enlightenment We Trust?&#8221; The list could go on. Who do you think would be in opposition to any and all of these additions?</p>
<p>&#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; and &#8220;under God&#8221; are Christian in origin and represent only one religious faith. While Christianity is the religion of the majority of Americans, this does not mean Christians have cornered the market on God, faith, and belief. Nor do they have the right to silence the voices of other believers or nonbelievers in opposition to these phrases by insisting that the majority rules and that the motto and phrase are neutral, patriotic and inclusive. Plainly, they are not.</p>
<p>A better idea might be to consider reinstating the original motto of Jefferson, Adams and Franklin;  E Pluribus Unum - Out Of Many, One.</p>
<p>(to be continued in Part 2)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the news recently, Governor Sarah Palin was extremely upset about a joke David Letterman told about her daughter being &#8220;knocked-up&#8221; by a Yankees baseball player. Admittedly it was in very poor taste, as Letterman himself agreed. It has been suggested that Gov. Palin was protecting her child, which is understandable if that was, in &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/767/free-speech-matters/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>In the news recently, Governor Sarah Palin was extremely upset about a joke David Letterman told about her daughter being &#8220;knocked-up&#8221; by a Yankees baseball player. Admittedly it was in very poor taste, as Letterman himself agreed. It has been suggested that Gov. Palin was protecting her child, which is understandable if that was, in fact, her motive. However, I doubt this joke will incite rapist or child molesters to increase their activity. Nor will it, as Gov. Palin suggested in her response, &#8220;contribute to the high rate of sexual exploitation of minors by older men who use and abuse others.&#8221; Mr. Letterman apologized but not to the satisfaction of some. There are those who have called for him to be fired.</p>
<p>This reminded me of the controversy and firing of Don Imus in 2007 over his racial slur about the Rutgers women&#8217;s basketball team. The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the firing &#8220;a victory for public decency.&#8221; Rev. Al Sharpton said, &#8220;It&#8217;s not about taking Imus down, it&#8217;s about lifting decency up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not condoning what either Letterman or Imus said, but they were insensitive jokes, the only goal being to draw laughter. As a mother and non-racist, I thought both comments were uncalled for and not particularly funny. But I am not at all sure how making a spectacle of and firing Imus will affect public decency or lift it up or how Letterman&#8217;s crude joke will alter comedic language.</p>
<p>Others, however, are using far more incendiary language on a regular basis with impunity.  It seems Free Speech is free for some people but not for others.  Some examples:</p>
<p>According to the US Department of Health and Human Services, 30% of the (estimated 5000) completed youth suicides every year are homosexuals between the ages of 15-24. The number of homosexual murders increased by 28% in 2008, 29 killings last year (report by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs). These also are someone&#8217;s children.</p>
<p>The callous, insidious anti-gay speech that evangelicals, other Christian ministers, and some right wing TV and radio personalities spew over this land via the airways most assuredly attributes to and incites these hate crimes committed by those who believe, beyond any doubt, the language of these &#8216;authority figures&#8217;. Why else would such atrocities occur? Who else instills these thoughts on a continual basis, ad nauseum?</p>
<p>Many Christians, Christian organizations, and Right Wing pundits publicly demonized recently murdered abortion provider, Dr George Tiller. They certainly utilized their free speech rights with the same incendiary remarks about abortion as with the gay community. Dr. Tiller was a father and a grandfather. I&#8217;m sure his cruel, untimely murder will affect his children for the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>Terry Randall, the founder of Operation Rescue ,called Dr. Tiller a &#8220;mass murderer&#8221; and &#8220;we grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly of Fox News has for years called Dr. George Tiller  &#8220;Tiller the baby killer&#8221; and described his clinic as a &#8220;death mill.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh, who coined the term &#8220;feminazis,&#8221; says &#8220;he used the term to describe women who are obsessed with perpetuating a modern day holocaust: abortion.&#8221;</p>
<p>The late Jerry Farwell blamed 911 on the feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters.</p>
<p>Mother Teresa in her many travels around the world said,  &#8220;the greatest threat to peace is abortion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pope Benedict XVI said, &#8220;Abortion is a crime of aggression not only against the unborn, but also against society.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are countless ministers who convey thoughtless, cruel remarks to their congregations every Sunday morning. They know there are dangerous and twisted organizations and deranged individuals who will act on their words. When someone does act on their hatred, these messengers claim they mean no harm, they are only stating God&#8217;s word and reinforcing biblical principles. Their words have power and they know it.</p>
<p>Why do we put up with this? Why aren&#8217;t they fired?  Because their God is on their side and they have far too many who believe what they say.</p>
<p>The Army of God&#8217;s web site is a training ground for Christian fundamentalist terrorism. Operations Rescue is not the peaceful pro- life organization it claims to be. Check both sites out and see for yourself.</p>
<p>Free speech is a wonderful gift, but words have power and consequences. They make an impression on the listener. If the listener and the person/s exercising their free speech cannot discern odious, inflammatory speech from decent speech or a joke, then they have a serious problem and society is in trouble.</p>
<p>Why is it a comedian can lose his job and be publicly ostracized because of an &#8220;offensive&#8221; joke that won&#8217;t incite murder or bombings or cause child molesters to go on a rampage, yet media hacks on the right and fundamentalist ministers can say anything they want, no matter how cruel, immoral, or offensive, as long as they do so in the name of God and their biblical interpretation of morality?</p>
<p>Gov. Palin is not without her own offensive, even dangerous rhetoric which she uses to enhance her political ambitions. So I must ask her, &#8220;Hasn&#8217;t something gone awry with free speech and what offends when public spectacles are made of a few people who tell insensitive jokes while many others are allowed to express their vehement hatred in public with nary a wrist slap?&#8221;</p>
<p>You betcha!</p>
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		<title>God, The Bible, and the Constitution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Frier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Mike Huckabee, who is a Baptist minister, stated &#8220;I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it&#8217;s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that&#8217;s what &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/692/god-the-bible-and-the-constitution/">Continue reading &#187;</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>In the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Mike Huckabee, who is a Baptist minister, stated &#8220;I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it&#8217;s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that&#8217;s what we need to do &#8211; to amend the Constitution so it&#8217;s in God&#8217;s standards rather than try to change God&#8217;s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement should be of serious concern to every thinking, patriotic American and anyone who values freedom.</p>
<p>Mr. Huckabee, asked during one of the debates if he believed in the Bible, said he thought the Bible was the inerrant word of God. My question to him is just what part of the Constitution would he like to amend using the standards God supports and sanctions in the Holy Bible?</p>
<p>Perhaps he would like to bring back slavery, which is rampant throughout the Bible with no objection from the Lord.  Maybe he would like to see torture sanctioned. According to a recent Pew poll on the &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques&#8221; authorized by the Bush/Cheney administration, the majority of Christians have no problem with torture. But most people know that when you torture someone, they will confess to or say just about anything and truth is not necessarily the outcome. Think of the Inquisition, witch hunts, and burning heretics at the stake.</p>
<p>By amending the Constitution, Mr. Huckabee could make abortion a crime, even though &#8220;abortion&#8221; is not mentioned in the Bible. Pro lifers cite Exodus 21:22-25 to justify their stance, but this passage actually says that if a man strikes his pregnant wife, causing her &#8220;fruit to depart,&#8221; the wife can punish the husband. But if the wife dies, he gets the death penalty. The punishment is for killing the woman not the child. The Bible has chapters and verses filled with God authorizing the killing of men, women, and children. (See 2 Kings 2:23-24, 1 Samuel 15:3, Deuteronomy 2:34, Isaiah 13:16 to name a few.) No matter how one interprets or justifies these passages, the Bible does not appear to be pro life.</p>
<p>As for homosexuality, in Leviticus 20:13 the penalty is death for both parties. However, the death penalty also applies to adultery (Leviticus 20:10). The two verses on homosexuality appear to be paramount to Christians, who think they know what constitutes a loving marriage (between a man and a woman) and healthy family values. Their definition of what and whom a marriage and family consist of is just as antiquated as the person/s who wrote Leviticus. The basis for their value system is also ironic since currently 50% of all marriages between men and women end in divorce.</p>
<p>How would adulterers feel, I wonder, if society treated them the same as homosexuals? There would be those who would justify killing them because the Bible said it was what they deserve. It is we the people who see just how insane this is and have begun to rectify the erroneous situation by introducing governmental hate bills.</p>
<p>Moreover, for all the ministers like Mr. Huckabee who are concerned about not being able to rant about the &#8220;abomination&#8221; of homosexuality, think about this. Priests and pedophiles and other adult deviants are raping young children as I write this. If Christian ministers want to express outrage or do something about the lives of &#8216;living&#8217; children, let these people be their sermon. Consenting adult homosexuals don&#8217;t hurt anyone.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the issue of women. Women in many societies have come a long way, but equality between the sexes is still not fully realized. Women&#8217;s status is debased in much of the Bible. They are blamed for the original sin and are held in contempt. &#8220;I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee,&#8221; God says to woman in Genesis 3:13. Would Mr. Huckabee and his Christian friends mandate women to be subservient to their husbands?</p>
<p>In short, I can&#8217;t imagine what Mr. Huckabee has in mind for amending the Constitution. God is very deliberately not mentioned in that document. The men who drafted it were not affirming or applying Christian or God&#8217;s standards when they wrote it. What kind of committee would be formed for Mr. Huckabee&#8217;s amendment undertaking and who would be on it? How would those who disagreed with or disobeyed their amendments be punished? Stoned to death or discriminated against and relegated to the fringes of society as many still are today who disagree with religious dogma and orthodoxy?</p>
<p>We do not get our morality from any holy book or religious dogma. &#8220;We the people&#8221; use reason, logic, and critical thinking when distinguishing right from wrong. There are those who do the right thing &#8220;in the name of God&#8221; and those who do not believe in God who do the right thing simply because it&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Much immorality has occurred throughout history &#8220;in the name of God.&#8221; Belief in God is still the basis for many atrocities today. The more pious a country is and the more it intermingles its religion with its government, the more oppressive and dangerous it is for its citizens. Hopefully more and more people will come to realize this. The US Constitution must remain secular, as the framers intended.</p>
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