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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/764/which-god/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is the flesh world, the body you live in and there is the spirit world, your individual spirit; the one that creates thought, emotions and your desire for life.  Each of us has a unique spirit, agreed?  When a person says they believe in god it creates a good feeling inside.  When a person says they don&#039;t believe in god, although that person may feel secure about thier decision, they can&#039;t help but feel a bit empty. If you say no, you are not empty, then why did your spirit just raise up and act with any level of passion about your decision? I have worked with several different cultures and we all agree on this; as the human race, cultures have their ways of beleiving in god and we believe that they are the same god for we all strive for the same results; to love and trust in the god we know as reflected between humans; to love and trust one another. I learned from the Native American Culture that they refer to god as the Great Spirit!  Since there are so many versions of God from so many differnt cultures, I feel that the term &quot;Great Spirit&quot; captures all the different religions and faiths under one umbrella. One should trust in gods plan/Great Spirit and not our own flesh world plan. Have you noticed that if it were not for the flesh world ways (money, lust, etc.,) we would not have so much fustration with in ourselves and the world we live in. Are you loved by family and or friends? Do you have enough food to eat, Clothes to wear, a car to drive, good health; the list can go on an on. So when you have many of these things in life you still need god to tell you to your face that he is real? The spirit you feel in yourself everday is God/Great Spirit letting you know he/she is there.  Best Wishes to all on your individual spirit journey and be sure to look for what you can&#039;t see in the flesh world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is the flesh world, the body you live in and there is the spirit world, your individual spirit; the one that creates thought, emotions and your desire for life.  Each of us has a unique spirit, agreed?  When a person says they believe in god it creates a good feeling inside.  When a person says they don&#8217;t believe in god, although that person may feel secure about thier decision, they can&#8217;t help but feel a bit empty. If you say no, you are not empty, then why did your spirit just raise up and act with any level of passion about your decision? I have worked with several different cultures and we all agree on this; as the human race, cultures have their ways of beleiving in god and we believe that they are the same god for we all strive for the same results; to love and trust in the god we know as reflected between humans; to love and trust one another. I learned from the Native American Culture that they refer to god as the Great Spirit!  Since there are so many versions of God from so many differnt cultures, I feel that the term &#8220;Great Spirit&#8221; captures all the different religions and faiths under one umbrella. One should trust in gods plan/Great Spirit and not our own flesh world plan. Have you noticed that if it were not for the flesh world ways (money, lust, etc.,) we would not have so much fustration with in ourselves and the world we live in. Are you loved by family and or friends? Do you have enough food to eat, Clothes to wear, a car to drive, good health; the list can go on an on. So when you have many of these things in life you still need god to tell you to your face that he is real? The spirit you feel in yourself everday is God/Great Spirit letting you know he/she is there.  Best Wishes to all on your individual spirit journey and be sure to look for what you can&#8217;t see in the flesh world.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/764/which-god/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the comments.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Marrero</title>
		<link>http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/764/which-god/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Marrero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably Mr. Witherspoon believes I am answered by his six word reply. Free choice, or free will, is the most common and altogether worthless response given by believers to the question posed. To sum it up: god gives you the choice to obey or rebel, and so he is justified in torturing you forever for making the wrong choice.

I say: What choice? Whom shall I believe? If I have to accept the word of another man, then who shall it be? Paul, or Joseph Smith? Aquinas, or Martin Luther? Is it faith, or works? Baptism, or tongues of fire?

There is no evidence on any side. No miracles that can prove any supernatural premise, only baseless rumours from an illiterate past.

I say: If there is a god, let him speak so that no one can dispute it. Otherwise, let the fools be silenced. We all have work to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably Mr. Witherspoon believes I am answered by his six word reply. Free choice, or free will, is the most common and altogether worthless response given by believers to the question posed. To sum it up: god gives you the choice to obey or rebel, and so he is justified in torturing you forever for making the wrong choice.</p>
<p>I say: What choice? Whom shall I believe? If I have to accept the word of another man, then who shall it be? Paul, or Joseph Smith? Aquinas, or Martin Luther? Is it faith, or works? Baptism, or tongues of fire?</p>
<p>There is no evidence on any side. No miracles that can prove any supernatural premise, only baseless rumours from an illiterate past.</p>
<p>I say: If there is a god, let him speak so that no one can dispute it. Otherwise, let the fools be silenced. We all have work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What languages does God know and speak?</description>
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		<title>By: Harrington Witherspoon</title>
		<link>http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/764/which-god/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrington Witherspoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is known as free choice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is known as free choice</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Marrero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Marrero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent question, Joe. I think you will find that most christians will answer that it is somehow our fault, if you get an answer at all. Fact is, most christians never ask themselves that question.

The day that I really knew there was no god was the day I asked myself a very similar question: If god is all powerful, and loves me, why doesn&#039;t he just tell me himself? Why doesn&#039;t god just visit everyone, every day, and tell them they are alright, or that they are scewing up, and make it so clear that there would be no arguing about it? If there were a god like most people believe in, that would be the only appropriate course of action. That thought hit me in the head like the clapper of a bell. I instantly realized that the christian god cannot possibly exist, and if there is any god at all, he apparently can&#039;t be bothered. I like Abraham Lincoln on the subject:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and that by religious men, who are equally certain that they represent the Divine will. I hope it will not be irreverent for me to say that if it is probable that God would reveal His will to others, on a point so connected with my duty, it might be supposed that He would reveal it directly to me ... These are not, however, the days of miracles.... I must study the plain, physical facts of the case, ascertain what is possible, and learn what appears to be wise and right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

-- Abraham Lincoln, in a speech to an assembly of clergymen regarding the struggles he was having over the Emancipation Proclamation that would soon be issued (1862), quoted from Susan Jacoby, &quot;One Nation, Under Secularism&quot; (January 8, 2004)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent question, Joe. I think you will find that most christians will answer that it is somehow our fault, if you get an answer at all. Fact is, most christians never ask themselves that question.</p>
<p>The day that I really knew there was no god was the day I asked myself a very similar question: If god is all powerful, and loves me, why doesn&#8217;t he just tell me himself? Why doesn&#8217;t god just visit everyone, every day, and tell them they are alright, or that they are scewing up, and make it so clear that there would be no arguing about it? If there were a god like most people believe in, that would be the only appropriate course of action. That thought hit me in the head like the clapper of a bell. I instantly realized that the christian god cannot possibly exist, and if there is any god at all, he apparently can&#8217;t be bothered. I like Abraham Lincoln on the subject:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and that by religious men, who are equally certain that they represent the Divine will. I hope it will not be irreverent for me to say that if it is probable that God would reveal His will to others, on a point so connected with my duty, it might be supposed that He would reveal it directly to me &#8230; These are not, however, the days of miracles&#8230;. I must study the plain, physical facts of the case, ascertain what is possible, and learn what appears to be wise and right.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8211; Abraham Lincoln, in a speech to an assembly of clergymen regarding the struggles he was having over the Emancipation Proclamation that would soon be issued (1862), quoted from Susan Jacoby, &#8220;One Nation, Under Secularism&#8221; (January 8, 2004)</p>
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